This is a dead giveaway that I have taken this down to it’s shorts, as Jack says. I went to HP and it suggested a way to put original software in there. Of course windows 8 is still hovering but unless I click on it I don’t get. Things are very much the same as far as charging only I got my drivers and windows with the software just like Larry and HP said I would. So if this works out it will be worth it. Ron’s wife just brought us some pickled beets she had canned and green onions.